HR Future
A podcast about people, work,
and the future
Host
Maxim Zhurilo
Co-founder of Stayf
Guest
Karina Rozieva
HR expert

"First the system": An HR practitioner on how to build culture in a company

First the system, then events: why corporate culture is a comprehensive construction, and it should start with the basics.

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5 minutes read

Today, questions of corporate culture and personnel management are not about abstract values on walls, but about strategies for survival and growth. How to combine creativity and discipline, manage conflicts and generations, use AI without losing humanity? Based on an interview with an HR expert, we explore key principles that work in practice.

Podcast heroes
Host of the HR Future Podcast
Maxim Zhurilo — an Oxford graduate, sports enthusiast, and swimmer who crossed the Strait of Gibraltar. Co-founder of the company and evangelist of the wellbeing philosophy at Stayf.
Guest of the episode
Karina Rozieva is a personnel management expert with over 12 years of experience. She began her HR career in recruitment and headhunting, working for companies such as ERG, Samruk-Kazyna, and Dasco.

However, she dedicated most of her professional journey to a conscious horizontal career rather than vertical growth. This allowed her to deeply master key HR areas beyond hiring: training and development, personnel assessment, and later — HR analytics.

This systematic approach and accumulated expertise became a springboard for transitioning to leadership roles. Karina was invited as an HR director to tackle complex challenges, particularly to fully build and strengthen the HR function "from scratch" within a group of companies.

Today, Karina Rozieva is an example of an HR specialist who, through deep practical experience in various fields, has become a strategic partner for business.
Part 1. Foundation and tools: how systems and diagnostics create the basis for culture

When it comes to corporate culture, the first thing that comes to mind is bright events and social packages. However, HR expert Karina Rozieva believes that all of this is merely a superstructure. Real strategic work begins with a much more prosaic but fundamental step — building a predictable system with clear metrics, responsibilities, and rules. "No one wants to live in chaos; everyone needs a clear system," notes the expert.

How does this work in practice?

Ideally, the request to create such a system comes from the owner, which significantly accelerates the process. Karina provides an example from her own practice, where the leadership became the initiator of changes:

"In the last months of my work, one of the key tasks was to build a new corporate culture and improve internal communications. There was quite a tough competition between project teams in the company... Importantly, this initiative came from the top — from the owner and managing partner. Their idea and desire to create a more open environment became the main driver of change."

To establish transparency, Karina's HR team adhered to a systematic approach. To rectify the situation with informal coalitions and uneven information distribution, she took specific steps:

  • Implementation of regular communication channels: weekly and monthly newsletters with the current status of teams. Such a seemingly minor detail — information about who is on vacation or a business trip — allowed project groups to stop "losing" colleagues and better plan their work.
  • Establishing unified interaction rules: clear regulations for meetings, including punctuality. Corporate values like "Client is a priority" ceased to be mere words on posters — the expert and top management began to convey them through daily behavior, demonstrating that being late is unacceptable, and if delayed, one must notify.
  • Launching a series of events to break down barriers: internal and off-site activities — from quizzes and theatre outings to informal meetings. This helped employees get to know each other beyond work tasks.
  • Supporting a culture of openness at all levels: the principle of "open doors" from management became a practical confirmation of the declared values.
"The effect was achieved only through systematic effort and persistence. Over the course of a year, we consistently communicated the same rules... When employees saw for themselves that transparency and discipline worked in their favor — easing work and reducing stress — they gradually began to change their behavior."
Karina Rozieva
HR expert
Important observation

"In all companies, informal tools and live communication work excellently. But their implementation is the second, more subtle stage," explains the expert. In conditions of "complete chaos," there is no room for informality. First and foremost, it is necessary to act clearly and directive to lay that very foundation:

To meet basic needs for clear processes and predictability.To establish "rules of the game" that give employees a sense of security and stability

"And only after this framework is built and people feel confident within it can we move to the next level — changing corporate culture through informal communication and subtle engagement tools. First structure, then spirit."
Karina Rozieva
HR expert
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Tools for diagnosing team health:
numbers and psychology

Implementing processes is only half the battle. To ensure that the system does not turn into a bureaucratic shell and that rules are followed not out of coercion, tools for constant diagnosis of the atmosphere within the team are needed.

Once the system is launched, it is critically important to continuously monitor its "health" and identify hidden problems. For this, Karina uses two types of tools.

1. Digital "sensors": HR analytics and dashboards

An objective, quantitative snapshot of reality. Dashboards providing real-time data on personnel are not just a trend but a managerial necessity. Such an "electronic report in real-time" gives a clear picture of key metrics: from personnel costs and turnover to engagement survey results. It is indispensable for making informed decisions at all levels — from specialists to owners.

2. Qualitative "sonograph": working with hidden processes

Formal metrics capture symptoms but do not always reveal underlying causes — informal unions, hidden conflicts, and social dynamics within the team. To work with this "underwater" layer of the iceberg, the expert uses her own methodology — the "conflictogram."

The conflictogram helps classify conflicts into situational "outbursts of anger": these, according to Karina, are easier to resolve as they are surface-level.

The second type is long-standing "Capulet-Montague" wars: hidden competition and grievances lasting for years that poison the atmosphere and drain the company's resources, distracting employees from their work.
Karina Rozieva
HR expert
The key to change — working with management

This principle is not an abstraction. Karina has personally experienced that the request for a system often arises from a specific business pain. As a result of such diagnostics, the sources of a toxic environment become clear. Most often, it is not the ordinary employees but the management. "By showing such a conflictogram to management, one can move from stating the problem to solving it. After all, in my opinion, the source of a toxic atmosphere is most often either middle or top managers," explains the expert.
The solution is targeted training for leaders in providing constructive feedback and emotional self-regulation. Although such an idea often meets resistance at first, practice shows its effectiveness.

Karina notes that "after living with this thought for at least half a year to a year, managers begin to adjust... They listen, then try and see how it affects themselves and those around them."

Thus, modern HR must combine "numbers" with "psychology." Dashboards answer the question "what is happening?", while tools like the conflictogram and subsequent work with management answer the question "why is this happening and how can it be fixed?" Only this connection allows for a transition from monitoring to real improvement of the climate within the company.

The conclusion and the highest mastery:
balance culture as a result.

The logic is fully confirmed by practice. Company leadership pays close attention to the state of the team and understands the importance of balance. "There should be periods of intense, focused work when we mobilise for results, engage our creativity, followed by phases of informal communication and recovery, where we can get to know each other on a human level from a different perspective."

  • Creating special platforms for internal communication where any employee can share an idea after reading a book or talk about a personal project. Such initiatives are highly welcomed by top management.
  • Regular off-site events of various formats — from sports events and quizzes to trips to the opera. This is not just entertainment. It directly affects team cohesion and the quality of communication. People start to understand each other better. It becomes much easier to resolve work or even conflict situations — employees realise they can simply approach each other and discuss tasks informally.
Thus, the path from chaos to culture is a sequence: setting rules → implementing them → diagnosing team health → creating a conscious environment where both results and human relationships are valued. Without the first three steps, the last is unattainable.
Karina Rozieva
HR expert
Part 2. Ecosystem for growth: from care to burnout prevention

When the foundation of the system is laid and diagnostic tools are working, the stage of designing the living environment — an ecosystem that not only retains people but allows them to grow and be effective without "burnout" — begins. Here, the philosophy of care becomes a practical strategy.

Universal principle: comfort is basic respect.

Karina's key thesis: comfortable conditions in a broad sense are needed by all employees without exception. Only their content and priorities change.

  • In high-risk industries (manufacturing, logistics), "comfort" primarily means impeccable adherence to safety protocols, clear instructions, and predictability of processes. This is not about creative freedom, but about physical safety and respect for health.
  • In small businesses or manufacturing, basic comfort and the foundation of trust can be timely salary payments, stability, and recognition of the value of work.
  • An ecosystem with maximum freedom, a creative atmosphere, and premium benefits (like offices with sofas and free food) is created for a specific request — to attract and retain unique talents whose work is based on innovation and creativity.
"The company's task is to understand what true comfort and care mean for its specific employees in its specific conditions, and to consistently provide that. This becomes the cornerstone of loyalty and engagement in any field."
Karina Rozieva
HR expert
From empathy to personalization:
the "cafeteria benefits" strategy

How to turn general empathy into specific, valuable actions for each individual? Karina sees the solution in personalization.

"If I were allocated resources, I would organise a system based on the 'cafeteria' principle, where each employee could choose what is truly valuable to them. Because everyone has different needs..."

Instead of imposed standard options, the employee decides how to allocate the given budget — whether it be money, time, or another resource. This approach is not only more effective but also a natural development of the idea of respect for individuality.

"I am more for experiments... If it turns out that no one needs orthopedic mattresses, and everyone wants more joint events — we will simply cut the unwanted and invest in what people really want."

Burnout prevention: the team's systemic immunity

The deepest investment in care is proactive burnout prevention. Karina notes that its root often lies in a lack of predictability. Combating it requires a systemic approach at three levels:

Foundation: predictability. Clarity in tasks, metrics, and expectations creates psychological safety, eliminating the main source of stress.
Skills: self-regulation and communication. Training employees to manage stress and build assertive dialogues gives them tools for self-help.
Environment: a supportive atmosphere. From office ergonomics to a culture of open conversation — the physical and emotional environment must facilitate recovery.

At the same time, help does not always require large budgets. Effective measures can include:

  • Knowledge sharing through free materials and mini-training sessions.
  • Simple human attention — the opportunity to be listened to by a colleague or manager.
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People in the ecosystem: generational pragmatism

An effective ecosystem takes into account the differences among people. Interestingly, Karina, who values discipline, does not encounter stereotypical problems with Generation Z.

"My Zoomers come to work... and show excellent results."

A more nuanced question is interaction with experienced older specialists, whose energy and motivation may change. The key, according to the expert, lies in a pragmatic assessment of contribution.

  • If an employee's value is high (unique knowledge, expertise), flexible work formats are sought.
  • If the influence on culture is negative and the contribution is small, standard HR procedures come into play.

Care and creating an environment is not a set of disparate activities, but a strategy for building organizational immunity. It starts with basic respect (comfort), is implemented through personalized solutions (the "cafeteria"), is strengthened by systemic burnout prevention, and requires a flexible, unbiased approach to different people in the team. All of this together creates an ecosystem where business results are achieved sustainably, rather than at the cost of "scorched earth."

Part 3. The future of HR: a hybrid specialist at the intersection of technology and empathy

The modern HR specialist stands on the brink of the most significant transformation in decades. Their role is evolving from process administrator and environment creator to a hybrid strategist who masterfully combines technological literacy with a deep understanding of human psychology.

AI as an assistant, not a replacement

The direct answer to the main question — will artificial intelligence replace HR — sounds hopeful and realistic. Karina is already using AI as an operational assistant to relieve routine tasks and analyze data.
"I think in the future, AI will be able to fully cover some areas of HR, but not all. Because we, humans, need live communication."
Thus, AI does not replace but redistributes work. Algorithms take on everything that can be standardized and measured, freeing human resources for tasks where context, ethics, and emotional intelligence are critically important.

New competencies: what will be valued tomorrow

Automation does not eliminate the profession but radically changes the set of key competencies. According to Karina, the following will come to the forefront:

Speed of retraining and adaptability. The ability to quickly master new tools and manage "digital colleagues."
Hyperfocus on safety and data ethics. In a world of algorithms, it is the human who must remain the guarantor of confidentiality, fairness, and trust.
Technological tolerance and change management. The ability to help the team accept new rules of the game and work in symbiosis with technologies.

"Because we cannot entirely delegate issues of safety and trust to algorithms. They are more of a tool, not a guarantee."

Strategic partner: from perception to reality

This technological leap occurs against the backdrop of the eternal challenge: differing perceptions of the HR role by management. As Karina notes, the request can vary from the expectation of a "loyal administrator" to the need for a "change agent."

The future belongs to those specialists who can prove strategic value through the language of business results: reducing the cost of "expensive mistakes" of AI, increasing engagement through accurate diagnostics, building a culture that attracts talent and reduces risks.

"Given the current quality of AI work in our industry, I think there will be enough work for everyone for a long time. Its costly mistakes are already creating enough tasks for live specialists."
This ironic remark contains a deep meaning: the value of a live expert will be determined by their ability to work with exceptions, complexity, and the consequences of "mistakes" — both human and machine.

Conclusions

The future of HR is not in opposition to technology, but in its thoughtful integration into the humanitarian mission. This is a path to a profession where systemic thinking, psychological insight, and technological flexibility converge to build organizations that are effective not in spite of people, but thanks to a smart and humane environment created for them.

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